rane s****
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Date and Time: Wednesday, November 6, 2002, 16:35 PST
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From:
rane s****
Message:
Please add this to your site, if u dare....
below are questions from
www.atheists.com created for believers of christ to answer.
Since Ice was no challenge... I decided 2 find atheists who were. Here are the
questions and answers.
D I S C L A I M E R :
***I stress that all these answers are my opinions and do not
reflect any one's beliefs but my own I am not a reprensative of all
christians I rep myself ***
*** I do not believe that I am holy, superior, perfect, because I
believe in the word of Christ, I KNOW that I am a blatant sinner, but in spite
of this fact Jesus still loves and I believe that it is my responsibilty to find
what path I'm suppose to
take not his. I don't believe that god forgives, and forgives and forgives
anyone for repeating the same sins over and over and over. I believe he forgives
you when you are honest in asking for forgiveness and that he does shun you when
has had enough o
f you
r lies.***
---
1) How would you define God, and why are you so convinced that there
is one?
God is an entity that is the creator of earth/humans/heavens/beyond.
I believe in him because I searched for him, and he responded.
2) If everything needs a creator, then who or what created God?
I believe that humans cannot understand why God has no creator
because on earth everything has a beginning and an end. We as humans cannot
conceive of something NOT having a beginning and an end because everything on
earth has a start and a finish. Go
d speaks of heaven as not being like earth, that there is NO "time" and he
speaks of ETERNAL peace, joy, happiness etc etc etc, therefore that gives me the
impression that "time" aka start and finish is an earthly matter and not
something that God is as
socia
ted with because god is not of earth.
3) How can something that cannot be described be said to exist?
Well as far as I have read in books, and speaking to others that
study religions there is a lot of proof that since the beginning of "recorded"
time, humans have been drawn to believe in a "higher power", if you look in
Sociology or archeology books (
which have nothing to do with religion, therefore have a neutral point of
view) it has been proven that even in the most primitive times humans have been
drawn to worship a higher power. I believe this is because we as creations that
are made in the"ima
ge of
god" are drawn to look for god as part of our innate DNA... in othe
words... Basically we NEED him.
4) Since there are countless religions in the world today claiming
to be the one true religion, why do you think yours is truer than theirs?
It is my opinion that "religions" are in fact man made. In the Bible
I don't remember reading Jesus mentioning a "name" (aka denomination) for what
his teachings were. Catholic, Protestant, Baptist, Jehovah's Witness, Mormon,
Muslim etc etc are not "N
AMED" or orally said by him in any of his teachings. I believe that because
humans have created all these religions it has only confused people. I don't
believe mine is truer than others because I have no denomination and only go by
what I believe the B
ible
says.
5) Can more than one of these religions be right?
I believe that most of the "christian" religions have SOME aspects
of truths and some aspects of Human input. I do not believe in religions that
are not based in Christianity. I don't go by any religion I have no
denomination.
6) If you feel in your heart that your religion is the right one,
how do you answer those of other faiths who claim the same thing?
Excellent question. I think that If you believe in Jesus, than you
must believe in the Devil. Why? because Jesus/bible/God acknowledges his
existence in the bible by it's name and examples of his "doings". I believe that
these religions are basically
religions created by the devil to confuse and separate people from the
teachings of Jesus Christ.
7) How do you settle the debate and find out which of these
religions, if any, is the right one?
I believe that everyone at some point in there lives has questions
about God, his existence, world issues, politics etc etc. I believe one must
read up as much as they can on ALL aspects before making a final decision. I
think it is wise (if you lean
towards not believing in God) to first put your ego/beliefs aside humble
yourself and try to have a conversation (through prayer) with God. If he exists
he will respond to with the answers you need, if he doesn't exist than he won't
answer you and have
prove
d that you correct in not believing in him. *** but the key is to humble
yourself and asking with pure intent to really know the truth***
If God does exist, he has no reason to hide from you unless YOU
reject him., supposedly he LOVES YOU... why would he ignore you if you come to
him truly trying to know the truth???
Why does God allow all these false religions to exist?
I believe that after Adam and Eve created their "sin" by disobeying
God "Free Will" came to be a fact on earth. The world became imperfect and in
fact although God created earth, it is RUN by the devil. Humans now have the
responsibility to reach out
to God for guidance in knowing the truth. The devil is always fighting for
your soul to die, and God is always fighting for your soul to live.
9) Is the bloody history of Christianity consistent with what is
supposed to be a religion of love, or does it simply illustrate the consequences
of abandoning reason for faith?
Christianity to me, is a based on love, understanding, equality for
all, and everything esle that is considered "good". I believe that it is not
Christianity that CAUSES these deaths but the **HATRED of it's teachings** by a
world that is run by the D
evil.
10) If everything is the product of a grand design by an omniscient,
benevolent designer, why is the history of life a record of horrible suffering,
blundering waste, and miserable failures? Why does this God go through billions
of years of such carna
ge without yet arriving at His goal?
Again, I believe that after Adam and Eve failed and sinned, the
world became "imperfect" and and "free will" came into place. Every one of
jesus's teachings is about ending suffering, healing others, loving one another,
helping etc etc I think "horrib
le sufferings" come about by humans Vs humans and the devil using are
weakness to devide us (war, poverty, social class, human status, world hunger to
me seem to be made not by humans not God Vs Humans.)
11) Why did God intervene so many times in human affairs during
antiquity (according to the Bible) and yet not do anything during the Holocaust
of the Second World War?
again, after the sins of Adam and Eve "free will" took place the
world became full of sin, and humans have the free will to "treat" each other
how they want (they will later pay in the day of judgment for what they did to
their victims) and as far as
the days of "antiquity" if you mean why God intervened in the old testament
I think that's because Jesus Christ did not exist yet therefore he had to step
in, after the new testament/birth of christ God intervened by bring in Jesus
Christ to earth to sh
ow hu
mans how to live their lives, it was now up to humans to do their "free
will"
12) Why should onešs inner convictions about the existence of God
indicate that He/She/They/It exists outside of that personšs mind?
I think it exists outside my mind because since humans are created
in the image of God, one would think that there would be a "need" to connect
with him/it, and most christian experiences (stories) about the holy spirit seem
to be the verify that we h
ave not lost our minds and that he does exist! LOL
13) Can a God who would abandon His children when they needed him
the most still be considered all good?
Yes I think so, for the simple fact that when you think God is not
with you, that's when he is with you. God lets us go through pain and suffering
to teach us "lessons". God is not going to "baby" you, we live in an imperfect
world and we must learn t
o live in it. I found that all my terrible experiences in my life have made
me a much stronger person and because of that I am able to face a world that is
run by the devil therefore making me a stronger christian. (consider it as
"christian boot camp"
LOL)
14) If something is not rational, should it be believed anyway?
Yes, because as humans we do not have all the answers, and what
wasn't rational in the Cave man era like TV's, Radio, Computers, Cars are
"rational" concepts today. Human's do not know everything, we are imperfect
creators.
15) If the God of the Bible is all good, why does He himself say
that He created evil? (Isaiah 45:7)
I just picked up 2 different bibles and I don't see where he says
that He says he created evil. he says he created "light and darkness" darkness
meaning night time and light meaning day time (I think), don't see how you can
take those words and switch
up like that...
16) Is there a better way than reason to acquire knowledge and
truth?
Yes, humbling yourself and trying to talk /pray to a god to see if
he exists. If he exists he will let his presence be known if he doesn't than you
were right... **but you must do it without ego and be humble** God loves you and
has no reason to hide
from you unless you are the one rejecting him... and trust me if you reject
him HE WILL REJECT YOU.
17) If you would answer #16 with faith, then why are there so many
contradictory faiths in the world?
N/A
1 Is comfort more important to you than intellectual integrity?
NEITHER, salvation of my soul is more important.
19) What would it take to convince you that you are wrong?
There will be no one to answer the door when I ring the bell! LOL
20) If nothing can convince you that you are wrong, then why should
your faith be considered anything other than a cult?
See answer 19
21) If an atheist lives a decent, moral life, why should a loving,
compassionate God care whether or not we believe in Him/Her/It?
Because living a "decent", "moral" life is what Jesus Christ stood
for, so if you do live this way than consider yourself a person living Christian
life!! LOL If you live a moral and decent life than why do you reject a perfect
example of that life (J
esus Christ)??? lol Jesus never lifted his hand against anyone, healed the
sick, fed the hungry, forgave the sinner etc etc... things that make you go
"hmmm"
22) Why do so many religious people thank God when they survive a
disaster, yet fail to be angry with him for causing the disaster in the first
place?
I don't believe he creates ALL disasters, what disasters
specifically?
---World hunger? no, he doesn't cause world hunger because there is
4.pds of food for every single human being that ever lived on earth!!!, but we
humans make sanctions, laws, and separate each other by social class and chose
who will has enough $$$ t
o pay for a decent life through world trade etc etc etc... example:
Africans Vs USA
---The hole on the ozone layer? caused by the creation of modern
technologies that HUMANS created like cars, hair spray, energy plants etc etc???
Or do you mean why we thank him for survival of personal "disasters"
like divorce, drug abuse, child abuse? I think that we thank him for the
experience that made us stronger (experiences that are put forth by the devil's
temptations to break us) and
for finally allowing the disaster to pass, making us stronger Christians.
23) If you demand that the atheist disprove the Judeo-Christian God,
are you prepared to disprove the existence of Zeus, Odin, Ra and all the other
ancient gods and goddesses?
Well try praying to Zeus, Odin, Ra and see if they answer you
Try praying to the christian God and see if he answers you
lastoneistherottenegg! lol
24) Why is the number of atheists in prisons disproportionally much
smaller than their numbers in the general population?
Perhaps because they have time to really think about what they have
done, repent (or at least be shown by God through prison churches or personal
search within themselves that they sinned *** just because they believe in a god
does not mean they feel
sorry for what they did***
25) Is the brutal, vengeful and bloodthirsty God as depicted in the
Old Testament still a loving God?
Very much so a loving God, God HATES sin and is furiously jealous of
those who idolize fake gods (which a lot of old testament shows many instances
of that) He loves what is pure and without sin and his fury and wrath will be
felt when he is desperate
ly trying to save humans from sin, but WE don't listen. I think of it as
when a parent yells and corrects a child, if the parent didn't love you he would
not get mad and correct you.
26) Should any religion that demands we elevate faith over reason be
trusted?
Being Christian has a lot of "reason" in it, I think I have proven
this thus far with my answers? no? ::shrugs::
27) How can the same God that, according to the Old Testament,
killed everybody on Earth except for four people be considered as anything other
than evil? See answer 25
2 Is the acceptance of religious mysticism, magic and miracles
consistent with our understanding of good mental health?
Well... the bible came before modern science and just because modern
science gives an act of "mysticism, magic, miracles" a stamp of mental disease
it does not mean it is... Example Matthew 17 15:20
29) Must we hate our families and ourselves in order to be good
Christians? (Luke 14:26)
I think this meant that if your family and friends deny or reject
Christianity that you should part from them, nothing should be more important
then following God's word.
30) Since the ancient world abounded with tales of resurrected
Savior-Gods that were supposed to have returned from the dead to save humanity,
why is the Jesus myth any truer than all the others? See answer 19
31) If the Bible is the standard for morality, why does it not
forbid slavery and war?
Are you serious or you can't read? lol... Jesus preaches equality
for everyone, ever heard of love thy neighbor bla bla bla ... HELLO?? knock
knock! lol
32) If the Bible is the inerrant word of God, why does it contain so
many factual errors, such as the two contradictory accounts of Creation in
Genesis? I have no idea what your talking about, but if someone knows please
e-mail me about it... misslati
nsugar@yahoo.com
33) Why isnšt the Bible written in a straightforward way that leaves
no doubt about what it means?
I think that it is revealed to those who WANT to learn the truth,
again it's all about free will... if you seek, all will be revealed to you.
34) The last time Christianity attained total power, it resulted in
the Dark Ages, so why should we expect anything different from Christian
fundamentalists today? I don't know what you mean by the the "dark ages", please
explain.
35) Has anyone ever been killed in the name of atheism?
Probably not, no one is going to fight for a belief that to me
offers no hope... you don't believe in God you don't believe in the Devil so if
you die what exactly would be the purpose/end result? as prince said on his
website about the an atheists fu
neral... "all dressed up and no where 2 go!" LOLOLOL and anyways, why would
the devil cause trouble to people who in fact are helpin his cause??? Atheists
spread the belief of no god, no christ, if anything y'all should get 2gether and
ask the devil for
a ra
ise! LOL
36) Why does history show that every time a fundamentalist religion
has gained power, tyranny and persecutions have soon followed?
see answer 6
and also, the bible states that many chrisitans would be persecuted
for believing in him