From: Juan M****
To: Darwin@Atheists.net
Subject: your argument's flaws
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 19:31:42 PST

Dear Mr. Bedford,

I have no intention of arguing with your position, because I think that it
would be as pointless for me to try to argue away your disbelief as it would
be for you to try to argue away my belief.

First, I feel that your approach is ineffective.  If you look at all of the
major religions, you will see that the one's that have gained the greatest
popularity preach at least respect - and almost universally, love - for
others, and hold kindness up as a virtue to be practiced by all.  This
should tell you that love is popular, and so I feel that your apparently
angry, condescending approach will turn people away.

A point about your advertisements for "anti-God" items.  Many of the bumper
stickers and other merchandise viewable through links from your web page are
completely compatible with most religions (at least Catholicism, the one I
subscribe to and know best).  For example, the phrase "no one is free when
others are oppressed" would be agreeable to any Christian; I would be the
first to agree that "Jesus was not a bigot"; I too am against sexism and
self-righteousness; I also believe that every religion should be free to
express itself; I too have a great number of problems with the Republican
party; and I feel that any true Christian, and many members of other
religions, would agree with me.  Catholicism and many other world religions
are fine with evolution, so to promote the evolutionist theory does not in
any way contradict religion.  Certainly, some of them take a poke at
religion, but by being openly hostile and instigative, not by their
argument.

One last note.  Much of the merchandise advertised through our page refers
to the separation of Church and State.  While I admit that it is a popular
point of view that the Church and State should be separate, that is not the
belief on which our particular nation was founded.  The United States was
founded on a belief in God - not any particular God, necessarily, but a God.
  All of the references to the relationship between Church and State in the
Constitution and other laws were created for the purpose of promoting
religion on a wide scale.  Again, the intention was night to promote any one
religion, but to encourage belief in general.  Any argument in favor of
eliminating any hint of religion from our country is an argument against the
way the United States was created and still runs.

I invite your feedback.  Please respond to this e-mail address with any
comments.

Sincerely yours,
Juan M****